IBIS Quality Teleconference Minutes DATE: 5 November 2002 >> NOTE NEW TIME FOR FUTURE MEETINGS 9 AM Eastern Time, 6 AM Pacific Time ROLL CALL Adam Tambone Adam.Tambone@fairchildsemi.com Barry Katz bkatz@sisoft.com Benjamin P Silva benjamin.p.silva@intel.com *Bob Ross bob_ross@mentor.org *Brian Arsenault arsenault_brian@emc.com *Eckhard Lenski Eckhard.Lenski@icn.siemens.de Eric Brock ebrock@sisoft.com Gregory R Edlund gedlund@us.ibm.com Hazem Hegazy hazem_hegazy@mentorg.com John Figueroa jfigueroa@apple.com Katja Koller (Siemens) Kevin Fisher kfisher@sisoft.com *Kim Helliwell kimgh@apple.com *Lance Wang lwang@cadence.com *Lynne Green lgreen@cadence.com *Mike Labonte milabont@cisco.com Peter LaFlamme plaflamm@amcc.com *Robert Haller rhaller@sisoft.com *Roy Leventhal Roy_Leventhal@3com.com Sherif Hammad sherif_hammad@mentorg.com *Todd Westerhoff twesterh@cisco.com Tom Dagostino tom_dagostino@mentorg.com Kazuyoshi Shoji kshohji@hitachi-ul.co.jp Sadahiro Nonoyama nonoyama@hitachi-ul.co.jp Everyone in attendance marked by * Interested, but have not yet attended: Ralf Bruening Zuken ralf.bruening@zuken.de NOTE: "AR" =3D Action Required. -----------------------MINUTES --------------------------- Meeting chaired by Bob Haller. - Roll Call - New attendees: Brian Arsenault of EMC Corp. and Lance Wang of=20 Cadence. - Review of minutes for October 22 - Accepted as written. - Announcements - EIA Call for Patent Disclosure - No companies declared a patent. - AR Review - Bob Haller and Lynne Green working on Docs. - Barry enlisting people to cover remaining Documentation items. - Meeting schedule - Everyone willing to move meeting 2 hours earlier. Next meeting to=20 be scheduled accordingly. - PCB EAST Feedback - People liked what they saw. There was one issue that generated some=20 serious discussion. Some discussion of overlap of parser and Quality=20 checks. - People are eager to see the Documentation. - Documentation - Lynne sent out Zip file containing individual documents received,=20 and a summary of who is working on which topics. - IQ Header section - Kim - received. - General characteristics, ibischk - Todd - coming. - Discussion: Mike searched ibischk3, found 911 "printf" strings, 431 are error/warning messages. May not be practical to maintain a list of all checks in ibischk. Bob Ross does not know of any documentation of ibischk messages. There are 17 licensees for ibischk3, 14 companies. - Need to document what ibischk can be trusted to check, and what Quality committee needs to address beyond that. AR: Bob to ask Atul for any documentation for ibischk messages. - Component - Barry - not completed. - Model general - Lynne - received. - Model I-V - Bob - received. - V-t - Barry -not completed. - Ramp & waveform - Mike - received. - Categorizing errors - Eckhard - received. - Spice/Bench correlation - Greg - received. - Model limitations - Barry - not completed. - Clamp curves - Roy - not completed. AR: Lynne to send email to Bob H. on non-monotonic check table. Documentation is arriving in many formats, with various amounts of=20 content. Flat text is lowest common denominator for the working=20 document. The committee will focus on content of the documents not the format.=20 Lynne will accept both Word and text files. Eventually Word, Txt and pdf will all be available (like the IBIS spec). AR - Lynne - Also put documents into flat text form for committee=20 review. AR - ALL - download and read the zipped Docs, be prepared to discuss=20 their preferences for content at the next meeting. Note: Quality email reflector strips off attachments. Attachments for=20 posting should be sent to Barry. Mike proposed that a pointer to IBIS-Quality repository at SiSoft be=20 added to the message trailer to aid in locating the documents - no=20 objections. Roy - wife Charlotte could provide a Style Guide. - Opens for new items - None. - Plans for next meeting Continue developing Docs. - Schedule for next meeting NOTE NEW TIME! 19 November 2002 9 AM Eastern Time, 6 AM Pacific Time AR: Kim to update the conference call system. Meeting ended at 8:45 Pacific Time. Links: IBIS Home Page, http://www.eigroup.org/ibis/ibis.htm IBIS Quality Checklist, http://www.sisoft.com/ibis-quality/checklist/ IBIS Quality Minutes, http://www.sisoft.com/ibis-quality/minutes/ Documentation drafts, http://www.sisoft.com/ibis-quality/docs/, file=3DQuality Checklist.zip --------------------------------------------------------------------- IBIS Quality website: http://www.sisoft.com/ibis-quality IBIS Quality archives: http://www.freelists.org/archives/ibis-quality To unsubscribe send an email: To: ibis-quality-request@freelists.org Subject: unsubscribe